‘Playoffs or bust?’

Bleacher Report’s Adam Gretz posted a set of power rankings for NHL teams over the past 5 seasons, and if bashing “the Yzerplan” was a sport, Gretz would be going top shelf, repeatedly:

30. Detroit Red Wings: This has to be a playoff-or-bust season for general manager Steve Yzerman and the Red Wings.

The playoff drought is now at eight consecutive years overall, including all five years of the Yzerman era.

What makes the results from the past couple of years so disappointing is that they really made some big efforts and spent some big money to bring in veteran players to complement their young core of talent. But have they spent it in the right places and on the right players? That remains to be seen.

When it comes to the 2024-25 season, the playoffs shouldn’t only be a realistic goal—they should be an expectation, especially after narrowly missing out this past season on a tiebreaker. If they fall short again, it is a failure by the front office and a damning indictment of Yzerman’s overall plan and the job he has done. Because right now, the best you can say about his roster is that it finished in ninth place in the Eastern Conference one time.

Continued; there is no “playoffs or shoot Yzerman into the sun” plan. Especially with Chris Ilitch letting the Wings and Tigers’ GM’s work with long leashes…

Anyway, Yzerman has been honest about his team being in the middle of a rebuild toward sustained playoff appearances, and while I sure as hell hope the Wings make the playoffs this season, he’s not going to be fired if they miss ’em. Period.

Tweet of note: Justin Holl’s team wins ‘Da Beauty League’ title

Via Red Wings Prospects on Twitter: Justin Holl’s team won “Da Beauty League” title, taking the championship in Minnesota’s premier professional hockey player-participating summer league:

Meet Tyler Copp, Andrew’s golfing brother

This one snuck through the cracks, but it’s a neat “human interest story”: the Winnipeg Free Press’s Mike McIntyre spoke with Tyler Copp, Andrew Copp’s younger brother, as Tyler visited Manitoba to take part in a golf tournament:

The 26-year-old Copp is among the 156 golfers who will tee it up beginning Thursday morning in the CentrePort Canada Rail Park Manitoba Open at Southwood Golf & Country Club.

His passport may say American, but this one feels like a bit of a home game. Andrew was drafted by the Jets in 2013, made his NHL debut in 2015 and played 501 career regular-season and playoff games with Winnipeg before he was traded to the New York Rangers in 2022, then signed as a free agent with the Detroit Red Wings a few months later where he remains.

“My brother lived here for seven years. Winnipeg will always be something we are familiar with and remember well,” said Copp. “He’s still got a lot of buddies on the team, and honestly, the fans here are great. It’s good to come back. Hopefully, it treats me well.”

After graduating from Mercer University in Georgia, Copp turned pro and gained his PGA Tour Americas card for the 2024 season. His rookie campaign is off to a rough start — six tournaments played, six cuts missed, zero cheques cashed.

“I would give myself a D-plus. Obviously the competition is tough, but I don’t feel like I can’t be right there with them. There’s a constant learning curve. You’ve got to keep staying aggressive,” Copp told the Free Press.

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DobberHockey asks, ‘Who skates with Dylan Larkin?’

DobberHockey’s Michael Clifford discusses intriguing training camp battles within the Atlantic Division, and this one should spark some discussion:

Detroit Red Wings: Who Skates with Dylan Larkin

Much like the Winnipeg Jets over the last several years, the Detroit Red Wings have had a difficult time finding a second-line centre to play behind their franchise centre. J.T. Compher has filled in well enough, but he seems more like a third-line centre on a contender rather than the second-line option. Regardless, whichever wingers get to the top line are in a much more advantageous fantasy position than those on the second line, so Larkin’s line mates matter a lot.

Last season, Larkin’s two most common line mates were Lucas Raymond and Alex DeBrincat. That is all well and good, but that leaves Vladimir Tarasenko and Patrick Kane as second-line wingers. Those guys are talented offensively, but porous defensively, and that combination would wind up spending a lot of time in the defensive zone. Can they really afford to leave Tarasenko/Kane together? Does Kane move up next to Larkin while Raymond moves down? Does Tarasenko move up and DeBrincat move down? There are options here, and two wingers are going to get a big downgrade in their centre.

Positions don’t stay constant, but training camp should tell us how the team views the pecking order for skating on Larkin’s flanks. That is vital fantasy information for us.

Continued; how do you think that the Wings’ top six will shake out?

Another reminder of the Wings Alums vs. Yoopers United game on September 13th

UP Matters.com’s Rebecca Bartleme posted a story and video (which I can’t embed) about the Detroit Red Wings Alumni Association’s battle against a “Yoopers United” team representing the United Way of Marquette County on September 13th:

United Way of Marquette County’s Annual Campaign is set to start in September and it’s kicking off in a fun way for Yoopers.

On Friday, September 13, there will be Marquette County Hockey Night featuring Detroit Red Wings Alumni vs Marquette’s Yoopers United at NMU’s Barry Events Center. Andrew Rickauer, Executive Director for United Way of Marquette County spoke to Local 3’s Rebecca Bartelme about the event and how it’s the kick-off to their annual campaign.

For more information on Marquette County Hockey night and to purchase tickets, click here.

To donate and learn more about the annual campaign, click here.

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Tuesday-Wednesday-Thursday Wings news round-up

Of Red Wings-related note over the past three days, posted this morning because we lost internet service at Blog Central last night:

Detroit Hockey Now: Bob Duff discussed former Red Wing Billy Taylor, who was banned by the league in the late 40’s for gambling;

In foreign-language news, Duff reported that former Wing Dominik Kubalik told iSport.blesk.cz that he’s still looking for NHL employment;

Torpedo Nizhny Novgorod coach Igor Larionov told Sport-Express that he’s turned down offers to join an NHL bench;

Scotty Bowman also spoke with Sport-Express regarding the passing of Sergei Mnatsakanov;

And Kevin Allen posted a paywalled story about six HOF’ers who briefly played for the Red Wings;

DetroitRedWings.com: Jonathan Mills profiled Wings Nate Danielson;

MLive: Ansar Khan profiled John Whipple and Charlie Forslund, two long-shot prospects;

The Hockey News: Connor Eargood wrote quite a bit about Moritz Seider being named to NHL.com’s list of the top 20 defensemen at #20;

Adam Proteau says that the “Division From Hell” is the NHL’s toughest division;

Bleacher Report: Joe Yerdon also ranked every division;

USA Today: Mike Brehm gives the Red Wings’ offseason a “C” grade:

Continue reading Tuesday-Wednesday-Thursday Wings news round-up

A bit of Raymond/Seider contract talk

I’ve let it be known. I spent two-day power outage we endured in South Lyon mostly grumbling about the power being out, but I managed to write an opinion piece suggesting that Red Wings fans need not freak out about the fact that Lucas Raymond and Moritz Seider remain unsigned restricted free agents as of August 29th.

Now I’m more than willing to admit that I’m jittery about the fact that the Red Wings haven’t re-signed two cornerstone players.

I deal with an anxiety disorder and depression, so my brain chemistry insists that EVERYTHING IS SCARY ALL THE TIME, and I take medication and engage with a therapist to function. My therapist is as bookish as can be, but he knows who Lucas Raymond and Moritz Seider are, because we’ve talked about managing the anxiety that comes with getting closer to training camp without the Red Wings having come to a contract agreement with Raymond or Seider.

But there’s not much we can do about it as fans and partisans other than wait and see. There are still two weeks until training camp begins, and about six weeks until the NHL’s regular season begins in early October, so the hard-and-fast dates have yet to arrive, and there’s nothing like the imminent nature of a deadline to get a contract negotiation going.

I wasn’t the only one writing during the storm which knocked out power to over 200,000 Southeastern Michiganders, however.

The Hockey News’s Connor Eargood offered one perspective regarding the lingering negotiations

No matter which side is causing the delays, the result is the same. For players of Seider’s and Raymond’s importance, waiting them out shows that the Detroit front office either doesn’t have a solidified vision of its future on the cap sheets, or it can’t convince either player to make that vision come to light. The Red Wings knew that Raymond and Seider were going to demand hefty salaries. They knew that they’d have to come to haggle on contract term. Despite knowing all the details they’d have to work out, the Red Wings have responded with hesitation.

At the end of the day, Detroit has had all the time in the world to satisfy its two most important players and get these deals done. Instead, they’re letting it all tick away with each day that passes.

Meanwhile, Detroit went into action everywhere but its two biggest needs. It signed Patrick Kane and Vladimir Tarasenko, two aging forwards that probably won’t be around longer than a couple years. It picked up Cam Talbot for a three-goalie rotation that Yzerman admittedly didn’t want. And for the reasons of cap hit and term, Detroit whiffed on every big-name free agent or trade asset on the market. It did everything but sign Seider and Raymond, opting to earmark funds for them while playing the waiting game.

“We set aside a certain amount of money in the budget for them,” Yzerman said of his four RFAs on July 4. “And as free agency went along and we’re trying to get our own guys signed, we had to tweak things a little bit. But what hasn’t changed is what we think those four players are going to come in at. We will get contracts done with them, it’s just a question of when and then what term do we actually do on all of them.”

Nearly two months later, that question of “when” remains unanswered, and those reports of distance between both sides make it seem like “when” won’t be anytime soon.

Detroit Hockey Now’s Bob Duff offered another take on the situation and The Fourth Period’s David Pagnotta’s Tweet that the Red Wings and Raymond are “not close” on a new contract…

There are published reports suggesting that left-winger Raymond and the club are far apart in their negotiations for a new pact. On the other hand, Detroit Hockey Now is hearing from NHL sources familiar with contract talks that Seider and the team are getting close to an agreement on a new deal.

What to believe? There’s the rub when it comes to the Red Wings and rumors. There are so few leaks coming out of Little Caesars Arena at any time of the season that it makes you suspect GM Steve Yzerman is coating the place with industrial strength Flex Seal.

The fact of the matter is that nothing gets out about the business of the team since Yzerman took charge. He’s running the tightest ship in the league. Red Wings front office types who used to be welcoming of the media under Ken Holland’s tutelage now avoid saying much of anything on the record at all costs.

“That’s a question for Steve,” is a popular refrain from members of the club’s hockey operations staff.

The problem with that is Yzerman seldom chooses to interact with the media. And when he does, it’s always on his terms.

“We will get contracts done with them,” Yzerman said earlier this summer of his RFAs. “It’s just a question of when and what term we do on all of them.”

And EP Rinkside’s maestro of many jobs, one Sean Shapiro, reached out to AFP Analytics to determine the likely shape of Raymond and Seider’s probable contract agreements…

To get an unbiased opinion on this, I reached out to my pal Kyle Stich, who works with AFP Analytics a company that provides insights to agents and other clients on player values when it comes to contract negations.

AFP has NHL agents as clients, but neither Seider nor Raymond are on that list, so he was able to more freely talk about the market for both players.

The market for this point at Seider, according to Stich, is probably just over the deal that Brock Faber recently signed with the Minnesota Wild. Stich projected a seven or eight-year deal with an AAV of $8.6 million.

Personally I’ve heard that Seider would like an eight-year deal, so let’s assume that’s more likely at this point.

Raymond is the trickier one, because the player could be looking for a short-term deal to try and bet on himself and get paid more down the road.

On a long-term deal, Stich projects Raymond’s deal at eight years, in the $7.75 to $8 million range.

I appreciate that there are multitudes of opinions regarding Raymond and Seider’s lack of contractual agreements with the Red Wings, but I’m just…

I’m worried, but I’m not worried about the fact that they haven’t come to deals with Detroit. It’s been a pain in the ass to have to keep one eye on the computer screen all summer long because you just never know when “when” will be with Steve Yzerman and the Red Wings’ management group, but that’s what we’ve all signed up for.

Ken Holland used to give everybody his phone number and answer every call. Steve Yzerman gives his phone number to a select few, and I’m not certain whether any of those who are in the elite club of the, “I can call Steve” group are even willing to incur the annoyance of the Red Wings’ simply silent GM.

Detroit’s last management group was an open secret in terms of contracts being negotiated, while Duff’s right–the Yzerman regime is airtight and efficient as a nuclear submarine.

We will know when we know. Until then, It’s 12:43 on a Thursday morning, and I’ve got an 82-year-old aunt to put to bed, so discuss as you wish.

Monroe: ECHL’s Walleye, AHL’s Griffins will have to wear neck protection this upcoming season

Per the Toledo Blade’s Mark Monroe:

Cut-resistant neck protection must be worn by all ECHL players and on-ice officials starting this season.

The ECHL’s board of governors approved the measure in June. All ECHL skaters, referees, and linemen — regardless of age or experience — will be required to wear approved neck wear.

The American Hockey League passed a similar measure last week.

The increased safety measures come in the wake of the shocking on-ice death of forward Adam Johnson in Europe last October.

About a dozen Toledo Walleye players began wearing protective neck guards last season.

The safety equipment is made of Kevlar or other protective material. The guards resemble the top of a turtleneck sweater.

Walleye forward Brandon Hawkins, who wore the neck protection last season, said he fully supports the measure.

“It’ll be good for everyone, especially after the tragic event that happened last year with Adam Johnson,” Hawkins said. “It just provides a layer of security to keep the players safe throughout the year. I think it’s a smart move by both the AHL and ECHL for the mandate.”

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Pronman ranks Red Wings as having 14th-best prospect pool

The Athletic’s Corey Pronman has never been an easy sell when it comes to all things Red Wings, so it should come as no surprise that Pronman suggests that Detroit’s in the middle of the NHL’s 32 teams’ prospect pools because they “don’t have a star” in their prospect arsenal:

The Red Wings’ rebuild is at a bit of a crossroads. They have a solid NHL roster, but they haven’t become a playoff team yet. Their up-and-coming star Moritz Seider is now a three-year veteran. They have a good prospect pool, headlined by top-10 picks Nate Danielson and Simon Edvinsson. I wouldn’t call their prospect pool elite though, despite how many high picks they’ve had, and while they have some very good forward and defense prospects, there is the question of whether or not there’s a legit star in this group.

Key addition: Michael Brandsegg-Nygard

Key graduate: Moritz Seider

2023 ranking: 8

2024 NHL Draft grade: C+

Hard grader, this Pronman:

1. Lucas Raymond, LW

March 28, 2002 | 5-foot-11 | 188 pounds | Shoots right

Drafted: No. 4 in 2020
Tier: Top of the lineup player

Skating: NHL average
Puck skills: High-end
Hockey sense: Above NHL average
Compete: Above NHL average
Shot: Above NHL average

Analysis: Raymond had a great season; he was a constant offensive threat for Detroit and led their team in scoring. He has special puck skills, with the ability to make high-skill maneuvers in tight areas at a high rate. He combines that skill with excellent offensive IQ and vision. He had a good shot and with how many plays he makes he can run a PP1 in the NHL. Raymond isn’t that big, but he works hard and doesn’t shy from going to the net. He’s not that big or fast, but he’s very elusive and has good edges. He is a legit top-line forward in the NHL.

Continued (paywall); part of me wonders what Pronman would have said had the Red Wings drafted someone like Cole Eiserman this past June, and part of me is just so happy that the Red Wings have legitimate prospects beyond the 10 he “grades” that I just don’t care what he thinks.

Take that for what you will.

NHL Network names Moritz Seider 20th-best defenseman in the league today

Well, it’s somewhere to start from:

Whether it’s breaking up a big play, setting up a goal or scoring on the power play, some defensemen can do it all. NHL Network producers and analysts chose the top 20 defensemen in the League right now, which were revealed Wednesday in the fourth of a nine-part series. Here is the list:

20. Moritz Seider, Detroit Red Wings

Seider has not missed a game in his three NHL seasons, which included 42 points last season (nine goals, 33 assists), 17 power-play points, while leading Detroit in ice time per game (22:22) for the third straight season. The 23-year-old was also the only player to have at least 200 hits (211) and 200 blocks (212) last season. Seider won the Calder Trophy as NHL rookie of the year in 2021-22.

Continued; oh, we can argue about this one…But at this point, I’m glad that he was mentioned among the league’s best. We’ll take it and go from here.